Burning of a Pilot

Yesterday, the Islāmic State had burned alive a Jordanian pilot , while I feel pity for the pilot himself (both as a Muslim and a human being), I must say that something.

The reason for killing is vague. A Turkish Islamist claimed that, the pilot was an apostate and it was justified, since both the Rashidun Caliphs (The first four Caliphs after Prophet Muhammad) and Ottomans had executed people with burning alive. But, the actual reason is that, since this pilot had burned people with his plane and his bombs, it was justified to burn him, it was a Qisas (Retribution).

It was not a Qisas for me, and we know that at least many of them think it was not a Qisas. Qisas has its rules and burning people alive is not a part of these rules. Also burning of people is banned in Islam, an authentic hadith (Prophet Muhammad’s sayings) collected by Buhari and Abu Dawud (two of the most reliable hadith collectors) states that:

First kill them, then burn them. Because the punishment of burning alive with fire can only be given by the Creator of  Fires, (i.e. Allah) himself.

On the other hand, the Islamists who think that Qisas is justified also thinks that they are right. We also know that Islāmic histories like history of Tabari (Muhammd ibn Jarir al-Tabari, an Islāmic scholar and historian from Iran at the 9th century AD.) states that Caliph Abu Bakr (First Islāmic Caliph) and Caliph Ali (Fourth Islāmic Caliph and the Last of the Rashidun Caliphs), had ordered burning acts. Here are my objections;

  • Historian Tabari states that he writes down the rumors, there is a possibility that these two Caliph’s burning acts was a rumor.
  • Let’s assume that Tabari written down real events, not rumors in that case. Why the other two Rashidun Caliphs had not burned people alive? Why Umayyad Calpihate had not burned people alive? Why until the time of 1657, when a person burned alive by the Ottoman State as a punishment for apostasy not for Qisas, no Muslim states had burned people alive? I don’t know any examples for this issue.
  • How can you reject the hadith that clearly forbids burning alive? That hadith is from the Six Books of Hadith (The Compendium of six hadith books that include the most reliable and authentic hadiths), how can you reject an authentic hadith? Are you Quranists who argue that hadiths must be rejected?

A last word for the King Abdullah’s comments. He stated that this pilot killed for defending Islam . Mr. Abdullah, this poor pilot killed for an inner conflict of the Cathedral, not for Islam.

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18 thoughts on “Burning of a Pilot

  1. It is good to see Muslims coming to Reactionary thought and presenting almost an equivalent of Julius Evola’s ‘Critiqueing Fascism From The Right”. This is almost “Critiquing Islamism From The Right.”

    As an Orthodox Christian, I am sure you and I are very much divided on theological matters, but I think Muslim Reactionaries are somewhat kindred spirits in that we both recognize the Creator and his primacy as the axis of a Traditional society, and His inviolable Moral guidance as the groundwork for legal processes.

    I was wondering what your opinion on the ‘transhumanist’ undercurrent present within some sectors of what is called Neoreaction that seems to run totally counter to Islam and the glory of Allah’s creation with its desire to make supermen who live forever, and to tamper with the genetics of unborn children, as well as creating computer gods. These ideas seem to me to be profoundly Modernist. They try to ‘fix’ humanity and cure our ills just like the lies of egalitarianism and anti-nationalism. It would be interesting to hear an Islamic take on this. The more I hear about transhumanism, the more like insane utopianism it sounds.

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    • I don’t agree with the ideas of transhumanists. A Quranic verse states that;

      “Whom Satan Allah has cursed. For he Satan had said, “I will surely take from among Your servants a specific portion. And I will mislead them, and I will arouse in them sinful desires, and I will command them so they will slit the ears of cattle, and I will command them so they will change the creation of Allah .”

      There is no need to “fix” humanity and “create” superhumans.

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  2. What indications that isis is a member of the cathedral?

    And whats your thoughts on the establishment of the leftist socialist kurdish state of Rojova in northern syria?

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    • I basically think that ISIS is alienating people from the Islam, ISIS, with their all violence are secretly circling the wagons for the Progress and the Cathedral.

      “And whats your thoughts on the establishment of the leftist socialist kurdish state of Rojova in northern syria?”

      Not good. Kurdish nationalism and progressivism are following Turkish counterparts’ footsteps. They have became the bannermen of Progressivism. Maybe it would good for the Middle East in the long term, since most of the Middle Easterns would equate Progressivism with Kurds. But, in the short term, they caused Turkish progressivism to became stronger.

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      • ”They have became the bannermen of Progressivism. Maybe it would good for the Middle East in the long term, since most of the Middle Easterns would equate Progressivism with Kurds. But, in the short term, they caused Turkish progressivism to became stronger.”

        What have the Kurds done to earn animosity most of the other Middle Easterners?

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      • Sorry for the late replies, I could not access my blog due to the fact the Turkish government banned the wordpress.com for no apparent reasons. Luckily, the ban has been lifted.

        What have the Kurds done to earn animosity most of the other Middle Easterners?

        This question has more than one answer. Both kurds and the others have made mistakes.

        First of all, it was the result of modernism and progressivism. Turkish (Kemalism), Arabic (Baathism), and Persian (Modernization project of Pahlavi dynasty) had considered Kurds as a backward mob that needed to be modernized forcefully. If you can look at the state-sponsored Turkish newspapers of the 1930s, you will see that the Turkish state is bringing “the civilization” to the Kurds (A Turkish version of mission civilisatrice) for example.

        Second, it was the result of nationalism (of all groups). Turkish and Arabic nationalisms consider Kurds as a group which has to be assimilated/crushed. And Kurdish nationalism consider the others as colonizers.

        To be honest, I personally think that Kurds had their right to form their state, since they are a separate thede, but I also know that, in many cases, Kurds are acting like the niggers of the Middle East.

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      • Although the Kurds are still largely patriarchal. The progressive movement among the kurds is working as hard as it can to dismantle that.And it appears to modernization movement was quite successful at creating memebots to undermine existing social instituions.

        What’s your thoughts on the progressive faction of the Kurds allowing women to fight on the frontlines?

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      • Although the Kurds are still largely patriarchal.

        True, even the most progressive ones have patriarchal parents.

        The progressive movement among the kurds is working as hard as it can to dismantle that.

        This is also true. Three years ago, i had talked with a Kurdish member of parliament. She stated that destruction of patriarchy is one of their primary goals.

        And it appears to modernization movement was quite successful at creating memebots to undermine existing social instituions.

        Quite successful. The Kurdish Progressive Movement had managed to gain the support of 50% of Kurds at the last elections (presidential elections of August 2014).

        What’s your thoughts on the progressive faction of the Kurds allowing women to fight on the frontlines?

        I think that they are so desperate that they even to allow women to fight on the frontlines. I am strongly frowning upon about that. But, since the Kurdish political movement put a terrible women’s quota (at least 50% of political positions must be employed by women!), I am not surprised about that.

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      • ”I think that they are so desperate that they even to allow women to fight on the frontlines.”

        I think from all the news I have read so far. Its due to their belief of ”gender equality” a clear result of the progressive virus.

        They seem very proud of the fact that their women are winning against ISIS as well as the fact that allowing women to fight on the frontlines has as an objective changing “gender” roles in general.

        I am curious as to the long-term consequences of this development.

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      • I think the only good thing that one can take from progressivism(perhaps) is its environmentalism or ecology. The idea of a proper stewardship of creation especially of the natural world is an idea that neoreactionaries should all embrace and especially those of the abrahamic faiths.

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      • Rumors about this “phenomenon” was already spreading among Turkish Nationalists. A Syrian Turkmen told me last month that YPG is destroying Syrian Turkmen villages because they don’t want to accept Kurdish control over their .

        Kurds should be grateful that they just recruited these Arab villagers to ISIS. Great work. After that, just like always, they would pule and say “WHY TURKMENS AND ARABS ARE SUPPORTING ISIS AND THEY’RE AGAINST OUR MODERN, PROGRESSIVE AND EGALITARIAN STATE IN ROJOVA?”

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  3. When I surveyed the recent news reports apparently a faction of the FSA joined with the Syrian Kurds. And in their fighting appeared to be afflicting massive casualties on the IS all the way from the beginning of their fight.

    Is it just me or does the troops that IS has really suck?

    There may even be a possibility of them fighting all the way to Ar-Raqqah.

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